Ask a Mazda MX-5 Miata driver about the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider, and you'll probably get one of two answers:
1. Love it. The world needs more cars like the Miata.
2. Why did you dress my perfectly good Miata in a flashy Italian suit?
Basically identical to the 2016 MX-5 (ND) save for the exterior design and the drivetrain, Miata drivers are split between embracing the 124 Spider (often nicknamed Fiata) as a long-lost twin, or disdaining it as an interloper. (The truth: Mazda has openly acknowledged that Fiat's partnership is helping keep the Miata alive.)
Fiat did more than slap a new badge on the 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata. The 2017 124 Spider has completely different exterior sheetmetal. It's five inches longer and 104 pounds heavier. Where the Miata's front styling presents glowering, sharp-pointed headlamps and a boxer's blunted nose, the 124 Spider presents a streamlined, traditional look, with oval headlamps. Its silvery A-pillar calls out its convertible-ness, practically inviting you to drop the top and let it shine.
Inside the passenger area, Fiat squeezed some Italian accents into a compact space, most notably the stylish seating. Deeper inside the car, a 1.4-liter turbo from Fiat's Abarth family offers 160 horsepower and 184 lb.-ft. of torque. Drivers get a choice of two transmissions from previous Mazda generations: a six-speed manual or an Aisin six-speed automatic. We were disappointed to have the latter in our loaner car.
The interior of the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider (Lusso) has more luxurious seating than the comparable Miata, but most of the rest of the interior is the same.
The best way to decide which roadster is better, of course, is to drive them. That's why we asked a couple of longtime, passionate Miata owners to hop into the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider Lusso and tell us how it compared to their own beloved rides. They also drove the 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata on which the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider is based, which we obtained via the Getaround car sharing service. Many miles later, these are their impressions.
My Miata (an NB model, circa 1999) and I have been attached at the hip for more than a decade. I've driven the heck out of this little buggy and have had a blast in the process.
The Miata body has undergone some Kardashian-level transformation over the years, but still, both it and the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider scream ?sporty roadster." I prefer the Fiat's elongated front end and Euro flair to the 2016 MX-5 Miata's squatter, more bulbous body. I also like the Fiat's face-something about the sharp angles of the modern Miata's headlights and the slope of the front end give it a menacing mug.
Inside, both of the new cars were a shock to my 1999-steeped system. Storage behind the seats. Cup holders. An infotainment system. Oh, the modernity!
In almost every regard the cockpits of the two modern roadsters are virtually identical, with the Fiat maybe a notch higher in quality. That's particularly true of the Lusso model we tested, which features cushy leather seats-with seat heaters, natch.
Other notable differences are the Fiat's gearshift knob (square vs. round), additional padding on the doors, and a few added flashes of chrome-all matters of personal preference. The two cars also use the exact same droptop mechanism: A single latch over the rear-view mirror releases the top, and easy, one-handed effort returns it to place. This might be the one newfangled feature I covet most. The NB Miata's droptop can require so much effort, I often stay cloistered.
After driving both, I can speak to their respective ?feels." Let's face it, the Miata is so frickin' beloved-to the point of inspiring Fiat's high-profile homage-for the simple fact that it's fun to drive. My Miata is certainly that, and the 2016 Mazda MX-5 is just as pleasing.
The comparison was somewhat inexact, as my 1999 Miata has a manual transmission, and the 2016 MX-5 Miata we had for testing was automatic. But using the newer Miata's manual option at least let me shift gears at will, if not actually work a clutch, which made for a decent approximation. Sure enough, today's Miata displays the zippiness, great handling, and satisfying pickup when you step on the gas that I associate with the Miata experience. It felt like driving my Miata, but wrapped in a cushion of refinements-smoother, more insulated, a little less scrappy.
The 2017 Fiat 124 Spider, for its part, was very similar. Also a manumatic, it delivered the Miata's signature pep and agility on everything from freeways to winding two-lane backroads to the beat-up streets of San Francisco. Interestingly, the Fiat felt even closer to the experience of driving my NB. It seemed like I could feel the road more, hear more of the engine.
Nevertheless, the differences between the 2016 Miata MX-5 Miata and the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider are negligible. As a longtime Miata fan, I'd happily trade my NB (sorry, old friend) for either car.
I'm a Miata guy. It didn't come easy. The air-headed Lightning McQueen groupies in the movie Cars were Miatas. Enough said.
But in 2001, I was looking for an affordable convertible. My choice was clear: I bought a used '93 NA Miata with an aftermarket four-point roll bar and a hardtop. Did I know that I would wind up with one of the greatest production sports cars ever made? No. Pure chance.
Currently I own a 2006 Miata (NC) and have driven numerous examples of NA through NC. At this point, I wouldn't even consider buying anything other than a Miata. Except, perhaps an Italian version?
I could try to create a sense of suspense over the next few paragraphs, but to heck with it: I liked the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider a lot. I liked the 2016 MX-5 Miata better. The Miata's somber dark-charcoal paint, black sport wheels, and all-black interior couldn't alter the fact that it was simply more fun. I say that even though the car has a front grille that looks like a maniacal, near-sighted guppy, and the horn emits an embarrassingly wimpy meep. The Mazda design team is either seriously conflicted, or having a laugh.
The 2017 Fiat 124 Spider, on the other hand, comes off like the worldly sophisticate in both styling and road feel. It has a Roman nose (like my own) in the form of five additional inches of hood, and the interior-no one does interiors like the Italians. The 124 Spider's is a dark camel, with an aura of warmth and class. My only design complaint was an interior door handle that dug into my left knee. Still, if I were trying to impress someone, I'd rather arrive in the 124 Spider than the MX-5 Miata.
The other thing I loved about the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider was its power plant. The 1.4L four-banger surprised me torque-wise, and the turbo had just the right amount of lag before it punched in. The 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata's naturally aspirated 2.0L is smoother and winds nicely, but the tromp-on-it experience is nowhere near as thrilling. Beyond the turbo, especially when I hit the curves, the MX-5 Miata was the party animal.
I wasn't privy to the technical details of either suspension or steering mechanism, so I'm forced simply to describe the sensations. The cars felt far more alike than different. The 2017 Fiat 124 Spider was steady, but just slightly ponderous, and a bit floaty at high speeds (ahem) compared to the 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata. I also didn't like having so much nose in front of me.
The 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata, with the exception of more body roll than I feel comfortable with (I installed an after-market Ohlin road/track suspension on my ride), felt like it went exactly where I pointed it. I drive a Miata every day, so it's what I'm used to, and I'm sure I could acclimate to the 124 Spider in very little time. But it does tell you where Fiat went with its version of the Miata.
Me? I'll take the fun one. I like the Miata's cleaner exterior styling better, though my colleague Katherine Stevenson felt the opposite.
What I would really like is the 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata's body and suspension tuning with the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider's interior, power plant, and horn. A hide-away display (its upper-dash position bugs me), and a rear windscreen that lowers would be nice. I'd also opt for Mazda's manual transmission, which I hear is much like the original (both of our cars had six-speed automatics). Give me a Fiata like that and wave goodbye. I won't be coming back.